"Reborn Pyrrhic" (pyrrhic)
07/31/2014 at 05:53 • Filed to: npcp, audi, 80, 4000, audi 4000, tsd, rally, racer, winter, steyermark, austria, mobilede
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"Reborn Pyrrhic" (pyrrhic)
07/31/2014 at 05:53 • Filed to: npcp, audi, 80, 4000, audi 4000, tsd, rally, racer, winter, steyermark, austria, mobilede | 4
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Late night with insomnia, what do I do? Surf mobile.de, of course!
Today's find is one of those cars that fell below the radar when new, but now seem much more enticing. I am talking about the Audi 80, aka the Audi 4000 in the USA. The Audi 80/4000 was a mid sized family sedan that was somewhat boring, but then it was spiced up with the quattro system and a 5-cylinder engine. This particular example doesn't have either the sought after quattro system, nor the venerated 5-pot motor. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! started life as a 1.6-liter engine car, but now has a 1.8 engine, putting out a whopping 88 hp.
What sets old beige grandpa-mobile apart is the fact that this is a TSD-rally prepped car. The seller states that the car has participated in the 2012 and 2013 !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! (Styria Winter Rally) in Austria, and that the car is prepped with many new parts, including sports suspension, winter tires, Hella 3000 fog and long range lights, sports seats and harnesses, and fire extinguisher.
The car had originally 55,000 km on the 1.6 drive-train, and the rebuilt 1.8 engine and transmission in the car now have around 10,000 km of use. The original 1.6 engine and transmission are also coming with the car. The interior of the car shows a bracket for attaching a rally computer, a map light mounted on the center console, and a professional-looking installation for the new external lights. This car looks the part of a TSD-rally prepped car.
The asking price for this veteran TSD-rally car is 2,200 Euro. Is that too much money for Opa's beige machine, or is this a fair price for a slow(er) rally car?
On the Steyermark Winterrally website we can find one picture of this car in motion:
Thunderbee - Has the engine that kids like
> Reborn Pyrrhic
07/31/2014 at 05:53 |
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Got to be a NP. It's magnificent!
jkm7680
> Reborn Pyrrhic
07/31/2014 at 05:58 |
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Anything with Audi and Rally in it is an instant NP.
Fred (FreddsterExprs)
> Reborn Pyrrhic
07/31/2014 at 06:02 |
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I would say NP. But I don't see a roll cage, not even a half cage. And a rally car needs those.
duurtlang
> Fred (FreddsterExprs)
07/31/2014 at 06:59 |
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It depends on the type of rally. I participated in a winter rally last year, a rally through the Austrian Alps and a bit of Slovenia and Germany. <1999, <€500 cars were the requirements of the car, we had an AWD 1997 Legacy wagon. Speed wasn't a factor at all and we only drove public roads, so a roll cage wasn't needed either.
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Reborn Pyrrhic
> Fred (FreddsterExprs)
07/31/2014 at 07:01 |
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You are thinking about stage rallies. This car is built for TSD rallies, which are much slower and require no cages. TSD rallies follow posted speed limits on public roads, the winner is the team that arrives closer to the time specified by organizers. Going too fast or too slow makes you lose the rally. Go to the Steiermark Winterrally link on the main article and you'll see none of the car's on the rally have roll cages.
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duurtlang
> Reborn Pyrrhic
07/31/2014 at 07:13 |
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I think it would be interesting to organize a Jalopnik rally. See my other reply here as well. Too bad we're all so far apart.
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Fred (FreddsterExprs)
> Reborn Pyrrhic
07/31/2014 at 07:41 |
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So it's like those oldtimer rallys than? Where consistent speed wins the whole thing, like Mille Miglia ?
Alright, no cage then. Still, I don't know whether that kind of exhibition rally would be very interesting an old Audi.
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Reborn Pyrrhic
> duurtlang
07/31/2014 at 07:42 |
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An Euro Oppo meet would be cool for a start.
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Reborn Pyrrhic
> Fred (FreddsterExprs)
07/31/2014 at 07:48 |
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Yes, same thing. They're also known as road rallies. Some of them are for classic cars, like the Mille Miglia, others like the Steyermark Winterrally are for young timers (like this Audi) and old timers too. SCCA and NASA in the US also organize road rallies where car age is open.
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Fred (FreddsterExprs)
> Reborn Pyrrhic
07/31/2014 at 08:05 |
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Yeah, quite a few of them here in Germany, too. Not my type of event I must say, I'd either just enjoy a cruise with fellow car enthusiasts or have a closed road to go a bit faster.